What is the conflict of the story sinigang by marby villaceran? The supposed technique of a lion is nowhere near as intricate as the technique of a professional human martial artist. Congradulations dude, you may be responsible for some of the most ignorant comments I have ever seen published on this site. Theyre ks even an actual video of a tiger scaring a male lion … Humans have a technique. Since it was so young, you could've even pinned it down. @hulk99: I am going to assume you are just trolling your own thread at this point. She didn't want to give up her toy but not so much that she was willingly to full on attack me, just claw me enough to show her displeasure. Here was me getting ready to beat up some lions to find out that I still can't. I have never fought a lion. but a man has killed a bear with his bare hands at the cost of his own life. It DOES matter if the human knows martial arts, because it WILL help them. I think lions are stronger but this is just a guessThe StrongerSome say lions are stronger because they are the "King of the Jungle," which makes them stronger than anything or anybody. One could still choke it to death, gouge it's eyes out, or break it's arms. Their hunting skill and precision is insane. Hippos are stronger than lions. It's perfectly possible. Debunking the argument: Most human beings are capable of withstanding the weight of a lion on top of them. And if I was actually fighting that cat I would probably win but come out with some serious injuries. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec7rCsNFn30&t=2m02s. An expert martial artist would always find ways to avoid the teeth and claws of a lion, especially since martial artists have a technique, and lions don't. You are wrong. False argument #1: Lions are way stronger than human beings! Debunking the argument: This is completely false. I just don't think that's possible against any big cat. Hyenas outnumber lions and use their larger populations to compete with lions for food. Are you seriously making the above points? Gorillas are stronger than you and me combined. Please read what I said at the end of my post. False argument #9: Once a lion takes you down to the ground, your done! Much faster than lions; averaging about 30% faster. Just because most people believe in something doesn't make it true. The silverbacks are in fact stronger than 20 adult humans combined as they can lift or throw up to 815 kgs while a well-trained man can only lift up to 400 kgs. If it was ontop of me, I'd use my left elbow (assuming that my head is to the left of the lion's face) to keep the lions teeth away from me, while using my left and right hand to lift the lions left arm up until it's shoulder would be broken. This is beyond stupid, it transcends the concept of stupid and enters a new realm of low intelligence. Debunking the argument: So? The tiger does not win by intimidation and social challenge, he goes into a fight all or nothing. Debunking the argument: A good martial artist would use the lions momentum against it. Lions aren't as intelligent as human beings, not even close. i dont care what type of martial arts you specialize in but i bet if u see a freaking lion come at you at full speed the last youll be thinking of is using ur bear hands cuz the first ull do iw run away screaming like a little girl, @nothingclever: yep and while one time a dude did rip a bears throat out but then died. A dog is much stronger than a human of similar weight, for example, and big cats like leopards and pumas, which are considerably smaller than tigers or lions, are far stronger than dogs. Does pumpkin pie need to be refrigerated? Lions aren't heavy enough to crush human beings. See this image? False argument #3: Lions are so thick, they wouldn't get hurt by any human punch! If they wanted you dead,they'd crush your throat before you could even think about it, Also cool story I heard that once a tiger and a lion were in side by side cages for whatever reason at a zoo and the tiger managed to reach through the cage and severed the Lions artery just leaving him in a pool of blood. That mountain lions fear humans may come as a surprise to some, but there’s good reason for this behavior. While lions may be use to battle, they are only use to being cut, but not bruised. Are you a martial artist? False argument #6: Lions have such sharp claws and teeth, they would shred you to bits! When a Tiger fights, he fights to kill, not just to push aside someone and get better food. For this reason, any human being should easily be able to dodge a lion's lunges, throw several punches to its nose which would most certainly put it through pain, jump on it's back and put it in a suffocating headlock. You could've easily done so much to kill that cub with your bear hands, or inflict serious injury upon it. That cat was messing around and about 1/5 or 1/6 of its adult weight/size. If I saw a lion running towards me, I'd stand my ground. In fact, the strongest of human beings can lift as much as 214 kilograms over their heads, and 523 kilograms to their waste. You see regardless of whether you believe in god or evolution you have to admit as far as sheer ability to kill lions are just made so much better for it. 919. :-). Same thing now. @batmanwinsbecausewhynot: The bible is nothing more than a fairytale, but human beings can still use their bare hands to defeat lions. Debunking the argument: A wild opponent would always lose to someone with style. What animal has the weakest bite force? ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Which is pretty funny to write in the forums of a comic-book related website where super powers are frequently discussed. As long as you keep your chest above his body when he's on his back, and put in a headlock, you'd have a very good chance at choking it to death, or until it falls unconcious. If I had not dodged as effectively as I did I would likely have suffered a fairly serious wound. The big cats are usually killed in response to these attacks. Debunking the argument: If a lion were to jump at you, you could easily use it's momentum against it. By contrast, tigers are often solitary, though they do socialize. Most people believe that a human can't beat a lion in a fight with their bare hands, and people who do believe that humans can beat a lion with their bare hands are mocked. You're right A man could beat a lion, most could not and the ones that can it could really go either way. The average full-grown adult lion would GET lolstomped by a full grown human being 99.9% of the time. The average male lion weighs 190 kilograms, while the average male human weighs 81 kilograms. DON'T ASK ME STUPID CRAP: Don't ask me to prove my point by fighting a lion, because I wont do that. This topic is locked from further discussion. The tiger is stronger. No. The key is to not panic, and realize that you are far more intelligent than this animal, and should easily be able to defeat it for the reasons listed above. You have entirely missed the point in my story. Wait, this is the same troll from that Thor thread. Who is the longest reigning WWE Champion of all time? 919. With less prey and less room to roam, lions often wander into villages and farms in search of food, leading to clashes with humans. One must always do their best to avoid fights with lions, even though humans are more than capable of defeating lions with nothing but hands. The material on this site can not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached or otherwise used, except with prior written permission of Multiply. That's right, boys and girls. Conclusion: Lions lack technique, they're simply wild in their fighting. Is that why you think technique might actually work on a lion? As I said, you don't have to dodge it, you could blind it. You have entirely missed the point in my story. however, seen the kind of damage a < 6 month old tiger cub can inflict. False argument #10: A lion weighs so much more than a human, he would just pin you down to the ground! Lion anyday!Tigers are stronger than lions when they are heavier than them, but lions have stronger claws/teeth.This is the Big one. You could've easily gouged it's eyes out. I am not encouraging you to fight a lion. If they come in contact with each other it dosent mean they will fight. While male lions are generally larger and stronger than female lions, it is the close-knit female pride alliance that typically hunts and provides for the pride. If it lunged at me, I'd use it's momentum against it. You are wrong. Reason why tigers are stronger then lions. Humans—even professional fighters or soldiers—never do this, unless they are in such a state of psychosis that they might as well be wild animals. Congratulations dude, you may be responsible for some of the most ignorant comments I have ever seen published on this site. Based on scientific studies the Tiger is a much stronger animal. How much stronger is a lion than a human? The 7 non-human mammals where females rule the roost. Well I proved you wrong, so... Why are you calling me ignorant? Lions are larger and stronger than hyenas, but what advantage do hyenas have over lions? For example, a gorilla would be able to rip a tree out of the ground, where a lion could not. Claiming that lions are just wild and lack technique in fighting is completely ignorant. They're so heavy! It's built closer to a Jaguar where as a lions built closer to a cheetah. Post May 22, 2009 #1 2009-05-22T20:45. Yeah and I can be a bear with my lion hands. All Rights Reserved. @hulk99: I don't have evidence you have a brain. It can inflict wounds, but so can any human being with their teeth. So, right there, that is an advantage to lionesses as far as hunting goes. And no, they wouldn't be able to crush your throat if you don't let it. @mkgod: Just because YOU say it's stupid, doesn't actually mean it's stupid. The only reason to why humans tend to not defend themselves when attacked by lions is because they're usually overwhelmed by fear and panic. You just have to do it in the right way. False argument #11: A lion would just jump at your throat! @frogdog: Just because YOU say it's BS, doesn't actually mean it's BS. It is presumed that sick or elderly lions who are no longer able to hunt stronger prey may turn to humans as a source of easy food, killing an estimated 250 people per year in Africa. Lions kill more than 100 people in Africa each year. Raw strength means nothing in a fight. Debunking the argument: This isn't even true in the slightest bit. Tiger: Females will give birth to 2-4 cubs after a gestation of 104 days. Good for you. In fact, do your best to avoid fights with these animals. Or even kill it. Although there are numerous documented fights from all over the world between a tiger and a lion, the truth is that sometimes the tiger wins and sometimes the lion wins. Hippos are much bigger than a lion, and because of that are capable of fighting with other hippos, crushing boats with their jaws, among other things with no problem. Does this mean it's true? It is interesting to see all the heated debates all over the internet over which of these big cats would win in a fight. Their hunting skill and precision is insane. Why don't libraries smell like bookstores? No. The average full-grown adult lion would GET lolstomped by a full grown human being 99.9% of the time. Man-eating lions like the ones who famously killed over 100 men working on a railway in Kenya's Tsavo region in 1896 have given the species a fearsome reputation. False argument #8: A lion could just rip your face off! If a lion were to take you down onto the ground, you could easily move your head to side to avoid it's teeth, and (assuming that your head is to the right of the lion's face) use your right elbow to push the lions neck away from you, while using your right and left hand to push the right arm of the lion upwards until it's shoulder would be broken. You have no logical response. They have been evolved to eat specific species, so that it will stabilize the nature. Strength compared to humans: 6 times human strength (estimated) Bite Strength: 1,300 PSI (stronger than a great white shark or lion) Running speed: 25 mph (40 km/h) Arm span: 8'6″ (2.6 m) Weight: 430 lb (195 kg) Height: 5'6″ (168 cm) Color: Black (adult males have a silver “saddle” on their back). A long time ago most people believed the earth is flat, and people who thought it was round were mocked. And if the lion's head was below your head, then you could easily gouge it's eyes out with your fingers. A Tigers Limbs are much more massive then a Lions Limbs. Lions about 35 mph, lionesses about 45 mph. Both of you are completely wrong. An average, full-grown adult lion lolstomps an average, full-grown human being 99.9% of the time. ? That cat was messing around and about 1/5 or 1/6 of its adult weight/size. She didn't want to give up her toy but not so much that she was willingly to full on attack me, just claw me enough to show her displeasure. A lion would physically overwhelm a human being without even trying. Debunking the argument: This is completely false. By contrast, tigers are often solitary, though they do socialize. Send us a video of you beating up a lion. @jayc1324: Keep repeating that to yourself. How old was queen elizabeth 2 when she became queen? honestly read this, don't think its barehanded but its badass, http://www.maasai-association.org/lion.html. Stronger? We humans are actually pretty feeble animals when compared to other species. Copyright © 2020 Multiply Media, LLC. Some people say that gorillas are stronger than chimps and chimps are 4-6 times stronger than humans, therefore gorillas are much stronger than humans. Hungry lions also prey on cattle and other livestock. You're wrong. okay then go beat up a lion then, dumbass. And if it was <6 months of old, you could've effortlessly choked it to death. They are both among the five big cats (the other three being the jaguar, leopard, and snow leopard) and are apex predators i.e., they have no predators of their own and reside at the top of their food chain. I'd only fight a lion if I had to, I'd never fight one for fun. And if a human were to punch a lion as hard as he could, the lion would definietely feel some pain. I'd only fight one if I had to. You are drastically overestimating the efficacy of technique vs. the literal force of nature that is an attacking lion. The strongest of human beings can effortlessly toy with the weight of a lion, one doesn't have to be strong in order to use the lions momentum against it, and anyone (even the weakest of human beings) can choke a lion out. But its obvious that tigers are more dominant pound for pound. So lions are approximately twice as heavy as humans, but this is to the humans advantage, because as I said in one of my earlier arguments, a human would be able to use the lions weight and momentum against it. They are not "toying with" the weight of a lion or using its momentum against it, or choking it out. @batmanwinsbecausewhynot: It's a fact, but whatever. The Tiger regularly takes on game that is far larger and stronger than the Lion and does such alone. Lions use technique to take down prey or fight rivals and they have honed these techniques over the evolution of the species. Prehistoric human beings, with their improving hunting technologies, probably competed with lions for prey, and lion subspecies in Europe and the Americas went extinct. An Average adult male lion is about 20x stronger than an average While lions may have thick necks, the arms of a strong human being would definietely suffocate a lion if he were to jump on its back and squeeze the lion's neck as hard as he could. Creating more power, an impact in it's blows. @hulk99: Is this a joke? "I don't fight lions for fun.". False argument #5: Even if you manage to jump on a lion's back, the lion would role on it's back and crush you! Chimpanzees do have stronger muscles than us – but they are not nearly as powerful as many people think. Are hyenas stronger than lions? If I used my teeth, I could rip your face of too. And also, a healthy male human could most certainly handle 190 kilograms on top of him. And if I was actually fighting that cat I would probably win but come out with some serious injuries. When did organ music become associated with baseball? Ofcourse you'd pull the troll card. Would a tiger kill a cat? Now, it's time for me to debunk some arguments that go against this: False argument #1: Lions are way stronger than human beings! Now I'm talking about a cub that I had helped raise (bottle feeding and handling) that knew me and was not entirely serious. And no, they aren't capable of disconnecting an entire muscle with one swipe of her paw, and it's not mighty. If not, he would use his elbows to keep the lions claws away from him, and use his two hands to push the lions neck away to stop it from bighting you. What I'm saying is that a baby at play, weighing less than 100 lbs. An adult lion is more physically powerful than you can imagine. A human could use the physical weight and strengh of a lion against the lion. Sharp teeth isn't required to tear flesh, just a strong bight force. @rpgesus: They are just so much stronger, faster, and more durable than us it isn't even funny. False argument #2: A lion would just lunge at you and grab hold of you! If they wanted you dead,they'd crush your throat before you could even think about it. We're made to think, which is why back when we really needed to regularly fight lions someone invented/found the pointy stick. It does not matter at all whether or not that human knows martial arts because it isn't going to help them. Lions usually work toghter to obtain food, tigers dont. I just don't think that's possible against any big cat. If it can be done to a bear, it can be done to any lion. I worked at a zoo for a summer several years ago as an animal handler and I have a scar on my arm from a cute little tiger cub about the size of a pitbull effortlessly cleaving through the skin on my arm because I snatched a toy out of her mouth while playing. @batmanwinsbecausewhynot: The fact that you're talking to me is evidence I have a brain. False argument #7: Lions are wild animals, they would go crazy on you! The fight would cease as soon as you blind it. False argument #4: A human wouldn't be able to choke a lion with a headlock, it's neck is too thick! Debunking the argument: The only truth to this argument is that lions weigh more than humans. yep and while one time a dude did rip a bears throat out but then died. They will stay with their mother for up to two years b… Dead23. I would jump on it's back and put it in a headlock until it's heart ceased beating. Raw strength means nothing in a fight. 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